tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post115376328355843230..comments2023-11-10T16:19:46.880-05:00Comments on Blogslot: One of the Litmus TestsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1154837427557316682006-08-06T00:10:00.000-04:002006-08-06T00:10:00.000-04:00I like "one of the" as a litmus test because the f...I like "one of the" as a litmus test because the faux sticklers actively attack the correct usage. Sure, they'll get a lot of the other stuff wrong if asked, but they <I>actively attack</I> people for doing the subject-verb thing right.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1154179009930740752006-07-29T09:16:00.000-04:002006-07-29T09:16:00.000-04:00Strunk and White (and we're really talking about S...Strunk and White (and we're really talking about Strunk here--it's his rule) say that "[t]he active voice is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive[.]" Further on, Strunk says, "This rule does not...mean that the writer should entirely discard the passive voice, which is frequently convenient and sometimes necessary."<BR/><BR/>E.K. Hornbeck is correct in pointing a querulous digit at Microsoft Word and its programmers who have made fetishes of misunderstandings of the ideas presented in <I>The Elements of Style</I>.<BR/><BR/>And just to show that I'm not getting too far off the thread, please note my noun-verb agreement in "Strunk and White...say[.]" that there's some of that fancy writin'.<BR/><BR/>I think that mupu shows through example that the best recourse in these matters is to recast the sentence. So many problems with writing come from poor construction. Even in the active voice.Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07680935313621903480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1154074148995457122006-07-28T04:09:00.000-04:002006-07-28T04:09:00.000-04:00Bill, yes, of course, "a Hb" is wrong, ugly, ridic...Bill, yes, of course, "a Hb" is wrong, ugly, ridiculous. I have urged a switch to "an Hb," but was swatted down by one of the medical marketing whiz kids, who insisted that the intended audience "all pronounce it like it was spelled out anyway."<BR/><BR/>Well then, comes the reply from this editor, why don't we just spell it out all the time so it reads the way everyone pronounces it?<BR/><BR/>Mupu, nice way to sum it up for anyone who still doesn't get Bill's point.noneemachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258392029445056994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153938076341479822006-07-26T14:21:00.000-04:002006-07-26T14:21:00.000-04:00Use you and me correctly as an object phrase and s...Use <I>you and me</I> correctly as an object phrase and see how many wannabe sticklers insist on making it <I>you and I</I>.<BR/><BR/>(And I'll take the Mets' David Wright at $374K as the best bargain in baseball today.)AHL PRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12452666396486353363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153935349908018982006-07-26T13:35:00.000-04:002006-07-26T13:35:00.000-04:00Yep. I have spoken out on behalf of the passive vo...Yep. I have spoken out on behalf of the passive voice.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153934225904511652006-07-26T13:17:00.000-04:002006-07-26T13:17:00.000-04:00One "mistake" that amateur grammarians (a group th...One "mistake" that amateur grammarians (a group that certainly includes the author of this comment) frequently point out is use of the passive voice. Strunk & White may be to blame for what is apparently the general perception that passive voice is always wrong, but certainly this notion has been reinforced in an almost Pavlovian fashion (courtesy of Microsoft Word's <A HREF="http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/assistance/HA010775881033.aspx" REL="nofollow">grammar tips</A>) to the great disadvantage of high-school and college students everywhere.<BR/><BR/>As the guys at Language Log <A HREF="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002926.html" REL="nofollow">point out</A>, confusion about the passive voice extends beyond merely thinking that a passive construction should always be replaced with an active one.<BR/><BR/>As such, a few passive-voice questions in which (1) the passive voice is in fact preferable to the active voice in a particular case, or (2) the construction appeared to be passive but was in fact active, would likely reveal at least a few of the sciolists in the group.H. Philip Asterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970489392681184111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153923352624350012006-07-26T10:15:00.000-04:002006-07-26T10:15:00.000-04:00But the house style guide is just wrong if it call...But the house style guide is just wrong if it calls for "a Hb" ...Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153923171463531342006-07-26T10:12:00.000-04:002006-07-26T10:12:00.000-04:00The dangler is often missed, but what I mean about...The dangler is often missed, but what I mean about the "one of the" situation is that, when you handle it the right way, you're likely to get "corrected" by the legions who showed up for the first day of subject-verb class and spent the rest of the semester smoking in the boys' room.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153900086691084132006-07-26T03:48:00.000-04:002006-07-26T03:48:00.000-04:00Holy double-danglers, Batman! Two, count 'em TWO, ...Holy double-danglers, Batman! Two, count 'em TWO, danglers in the same graf. Wowsa!<BR/><BR/>(It could be argued just as vociferously that Frank Thomas of the Oakland A's represents the better value, at $500K. Though his numbers are not quite as flashy as Cabrera's, the Big Hurt brings incalculable intangibles and leadership to the clubhouse.)<BR/><BR/>But back to hooking dilettantes. The Big Pharma firm I work for abbreviates <I>hemoglobin</I> as <I>Hb</I> but assigns the article <I>a</I>, as if it were spelled out. So it's not uncommon to see <I>the patient achieved a Hb response.</I><BR/><BR/>This style nuance might not be fair on a test, but once you're hired by Big Pharma, you'd better get this right. Stet "an Hb" and we'll know you haven't read the house style guide.noneemachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12258392029445056994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1153846045243122912006-07-25T12:47:00.000-04:002006-07-25T12:47:00.000-04:00I might lean toward the ever-popular dangling modi...I might lean toward the ever-popular dangling modifier, as in this item about Miguel Cabrera from mlb.com:<BR/><BR/>"Making $472,000, a strong case can be made that the slugger is the best bargain in baseball. Just 23, it is extremely unlikely that the Marlins will even entertain serious offers for Cabrera, one of the top talents in the game."Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18391446256056089277noreply@blogger.com