tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post114737339260491166..comments2023-11-10T16:19:46.880-05:00Comments on Blogslot: Roberts's Rules of StyleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-11496872867217979902008-09-10T13:55:00.000-04:002008-09-10T13:55:00.000-04:00Alexandra above is concerned about correct grammar...Alexandra above is concerned about correct grammar. However, she used the word "acceptions" instead of "exceptions" in her concerns. Everyone makes mistakes it is not the end of the world.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17734370505738970371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1168814403907194102007-01-14T17:40:00.000-05:002007-01-14T17:40:00.000-05:00I came across this cartoon and thought you might l...I came across this cartoon and thought you might like it: <A HREF="http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif" REL="nofollow">Bob's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe</A>Jasminehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03101225465908877393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147818738109577172006-05-16T18:32:00.000-04:002006-05-16T18:32:00.000-04:00I smell a tagline, Bill: "Lawyers enjoy my humorou...I smell a tagline, Bill: "Lawyers enjoy my humorous explanations."Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249496192742926693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147785958041530872006-05-16T09:25:00.000-04:002006-05-16T09:25:00.000-04:00Seems to me that if you do or don't pronounce two ...Seems to me that if you do or don't pronounce two s's in James'/James's you'd do the same with Roberts'/Roberts's.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147651861626619672006-05-14T20:11:00.000-04:002006-05-14T20:11:00.000-04:00If I may riff off on the introduction to "Elephant...If I may riff off on the introduction to "Elephants of Style" -- On principle, I tend to ignore Strunk & White. A top editor made the copy editors make "however" postpositive but not ultimate, and that was a lot of work. Sadly, I worked at AP-style papers.<BR/><BR/>I adore "Elephants."aparker54https://www.blogger.com/profile/14056072647535615969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147535586336511442006-05-13T11:53:00.000-04:002006-05-13T11:53:00.000-04:00Sigh. I'll repeat myself: Roberts's is the formall...Sigh. I'll repeat myself: Roberts's is the formally correct version. Roberts' is the style shortcut. Perhaps you're confusing all this with the rule for plurals? If Robert Wagner and Robert Goulet buy a vacation house together, yes, it's the Roberts' vacation house, not Roberts's. But the chief justice, thank goodness, is only one person.<BR/><BR/>Sox's is ridiculous, precisely because of that rule on plurals.<BR/><BR/>None of this has anything to do with "grammar."Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147534903629867632006-05-13T11:41:00.000-04:002006-05-13T11:41:00.000-04:00This whole style manual thing kind of bothers me....This whole style manual thing kind of bothers me. What it means is that a newspaper or publisher can change the rules. "Roberts's" is grammatically incorrect; there are no acceptions made for such a construction. But because it is printed in the newspaper that way, people will assume its use is correct, and it filters its way into modern language. And Sox' is also incorrect, "Those ending in s or x should always be followed by 's when used possessively in English" (Fowler's New Modern Usage, speaking particularly of French words, but it is applicable here.)Alexandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06111152384329828232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147443661849084032006-05-12T10:21:00.000-04:002006-05-12T10:21:00.000-04:00I would write Illinois's and Corps's. The style ma...I would write Illinois's and Corps's. The style manuals are split. Some manuals also differentiate based on whether the final syllable is accented. "The Elephants of Style" includes a chart showing how the major stylebooks handle the possessives of Kansas, Texas and Arkansas (the Arkansas ruling would apply to Illinois).Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147443008861023162006-05-12T10:10:00.000-04:002006-05-12T10:10:00.000-04:00Yes, I just explained how both are common and corr...Yes, I just explained how both are common and correct, but it's absurd to imply that publications should have no policy against writing "Roberts'" in one sentence and "Roberts's" in the next.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01512881095588291721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147394708318063692006-05-11T20:45:00.000-04:002006-05-11T20:45:00.000-04:00In my idiom at least, "Charles's" is pronounced "C...In my idiom at least, "Charles's" is pronounced "Charlesiz", while "Jesus'" is pronounced more as though the "s" was geminate. I wonder whether that it what has led to the common convention here in Australia and in the UK to write single-syllable names with and polysyllables without the "s".Dr Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778131002672435917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7122549.post-1147394259106233972006-05-11T20:37:00.000-04:002006-05-11T20:37:00.000-04:00I was surprised at the number of matches for Sox's...I was surprised at the number of <A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260510110" REL="nofollow">matches for <I>Sox's</I></A> I found doing a Google search. I would've thought <I>Sox'</I> would be a no-brainer as well.<BR/><BR/>Do any of the style books -- especially AP's -- address proper nouns ending in a silent <I>S</I>? <I>Arkansas's</I> looks a little odd, but I wouldn't know how to pronounce <I>Arkansas'</I>.AHL PRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12452666396486353363noreply@blogger.com